Rogue

Subtlety Rogue 20/0/31

Role: Melee DPS / PvPPoints: 51 at level 60Build: 1.60.1.70425Updated: 2026-10-24
Subtlety is the stealth and opener spec. Improved Ambush and Initiative make openers hit hard, Preparation resets your cooldowns, Hemorrhage is a cheap builder, and Thousand Cuts is the capstone. Assassination points add crit, Lethality and Relentless Strikes.
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Where the 51 points go

Assassination20 pts

Remorseless Attacks2/2

After killing a non-trivial enemy, gives you a 40% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, Mutilate, or Ghostly Strike. Lasts 20 sec.

Malice5/5

Increases your critical strike chance with all attacks and Poisons by 5%.

Ruthlessness3/3

Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a Combo Point to your target.

Murder2/2

Increases all damage dealt by 4% against Humanoid and Giant targets.

Improved Slice and Dice2/3

Increases the duration of your Slice and Dice ability by 30%.

Relentless Strikes1/1

Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per Combo Point to restore 25 Energy.

Lethality5/5

Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Mutilate, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities by 20%.

Combat0 pts

No points here in this build.

Subtlety31 pts

Camouflage3/5

Reduces your speed penalty from your Stealth ability by 9% and reduces its cooldown by 4 sec.

Master of Deception3/3

Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode as if you were 3 levels higher.

Opportunity2/2

Increases the damage dealt by your Backstab, Garrote, Ambush, and Mutilate abilities by 10%.

Elusiveness2/2

Reduces the cooldown of your Vanish and Blind abilities by 90 sec.

Improved Ambush3/3

Increases the critical strike chance of your Ambush ability by 45%.

Initiative3/3

Gives you a 100% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.

Ghostly Strike1/1

A strike that deals 125% (180% if a Dagger is equipped in your Main Hand) weapon damage and increases your chance to dodge by 15% for 7 sec. Awards 1 combo point.

Premeditation1/1

Adds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost.

Serrated Blades3/3

Causes your attacks to ignore 9% of your target's Armor and increases the damage dealt by your Rupture ability by 30%.

Dirty Deeds2/2

Reduces the Energy cost of your Cheap Shot and Garrote abilities by 20, and your Garrote ability no longer requires you to be behind your target.

Preparation1/1

When activated, this ability immediately finishes the cooldown on your other Rogue abilities.

Hemorrhage1/1

An instant strike that deals 100% weapon damage (145% if a Dagger is equipped) and causes the target to take 15% increased Rupture damage from the Rogue. Lasts 15 sec. Awards 1 Combo Point.

Cutthroat5/5

Your Backstab has a 15% chance to cause your next Ambush within 10 sec to not require Stealth.

Thousand Cuts1/1

When your Rupture ability deals periodic damage, the Energy cost of your next Hemorrhage or Backstab ability within 10 sec is reduced by 3, stacking up to 5 times.

Level-by-level talent order

You get your first point at level 10 and one more every level, so each row is one level. Rows marked with a tree name are where that tree opens a new tier.

LevelPut the point inRankTree
10Master of Deception1/3Subtlety
11Master of Deception2/3Subtlety
12Master of Deception3/3Subtlety
13Opportunity1/2Subtlety
14Opportunity2/2Subtlety
15Camouflage1/5Subtlety
16Camouflage2/5Subtlety
17Camouflage3/5Subtlety
18Elusiveness1/2Subtlety
19Elusiveness2/2Subtlety
20Improved Ambush1/3Subtlety
21Improved Ambush2/3Subtlety
22Improved Ambush3/3Subtlety
23Initiative1/3Subtlety
24Initiative2/3Subtlety
25Initiative3/3Subtlety
26Ghostly Strike1/1Subtlety
27Premeditation1/1Subtlety
28Serrated Blades1/3Subtlety
29Serrated Blades2/3Subtlety
30Serrated Blades3/3Subtlety
31Preparation1/1Subtlety
32Hemorrhage1/1Subtlety
33Dirty Deeds1/2Subtlety
34Dirty Deeds2/2Subtlety
35Cutthroat1/5Subtlety
36Cutthroat2/5Subtlety
37Cutthroat3/5Subtlety
38Cutthroat4/5Subtlety
39Cutthroat5/5Subtlety
40Thousand Cuts1/1Subtlety
41Malice1/5Assassination
42Malice2/5Assassination
43Malice3/5Assassination
44Malice4/5Assassination
45Malice5/5Assassination
46Remorseless Attacks1/2Assassination
47Remorseless Attacks2/2Assassination
48Ruthlessness1/3Assassination
49Ruthlessness2/3Assassination
50Ruthlessness3/3Assassination
51Murder1/2Assassination
52Murder2/2Assassination
53Lethality1/5Assassination
54Lethality2/5Assassination
55Lethality3/5Assassination
56Lethality4/5Assassination
57Lethality5/5Assassination
58Relentless Strikes1/1Assassination
59Improved Slice and Dice1/3Assassination
60Improved Slice and Dice2/3Assassination

Stat priority and gearing

Agility and Crit for openers, Hit to 9%, Stamina for PvP survival, then attack power. A high top-end dagger for Ambush.
Subtlety is burst, so weapon damage range beats steady stats.
Hit caps (9% melee, 16% spells, 440 Defense) are the Classic 1.12 values Forever inherits; the news desk notes any change. Pre-raid best-in-slot lists will be added once the Forever item database is public and verified; we will not guess at item stats.

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