Classic vs WoW Forever: Talent Changes
Forever rebuilt large parts of every tree. These pages put the Classic 1.12 tooltip next to the Forever one for every talent, flag what is new or removed, and let you filter to only the changes. Pick a class.
| Class | New | Changed | Unchanged | Removed |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Warrior | 10 | 35 | 5 | 10 |
| Paladin | 18 | 23 | 5 | 12 |
| Hunter | 15 | 24 | 8 | 11 |
| Rogue | 9 | 31 | 11 | 7 |
| Priest | 14 | 30 | 5 | 9 |
| Shaman | 12 | 30 | 6 | 8 |
| Mage | 7 | 35 | 9 | 2 |
| Warlock | 17 | 30 | 2 | 15 |
| Druid | 15 | 33 | 2 | 9 |
Recent data changes
From the talentsforever.com changelog (the data behind these pages).
2026-10-22 · Back to Class: what changed for Hunters, with the video
You know Classic. The Hunter guide at talentsforever.com/hunter/changes is only what is different now, told the way the video tells it: the trees before and after, what every Hunter has now, Beast Mastery, Marksmanship and Survival beat by beat, your pet and e
You know Classic. The Hunter guide at talentsforever.com/hunter/changes is only what is different now, told the way the video tells it: the trees before and after, what every Hunter has now, Beast Mastery, Marksmanship and Survival beat by beat, your pet and e
2026-10-19 · Back to Class: what changed for Paladins, with the video
You know Classic. The Paladin guide at talentsforever.com/paladin/changes is only what is different now, told the way the video tells it: the trees before and after, what every Paladin has now, Retribution, Protection and Holy beat by beat, your Seals, Blessin
You know Classic. The Paladin guide at talentsforever.com/paladin/changes is only what is different now, told the way the video tells it: the trees before and after, what every Paladin has now, Retribution, Protection and Holy beat by beat, your Seals, Blessin
2026-10-16 · Back to Class: what changed for Rogues, with the video
You know Classic. The Rogue guide at talentsforever.com/rogue/changes is only what is different now, told the way the video tells it: the trees before and after, what every Rogue has now, Subtlety, Assassination and Combat beat by beat, your poisons and your g
You know Classic. The Rogue guide at talentsforever.com/rogue/changes is only what is different now, told the way the video tells it: the trees before and after, what every Rogue has now, Subtlety, Assassination and Combat beat by beat, your poisons and your g
2026-10-13 · Back to Class: what changed for Druids, with the video
You know Classic. The Druid guide at talentsforever.com/druid/changes is only what is different now, told the way the video tells it: what every Druid gets now, the trees before and after, Balance, Feral and Restoration beat by beat, your forms and your gear,
You know Classic. The Druid guide at talentsforever.com/druid/changes is only what is different now, told the way the video tells it: what every Druid gets now, the trees before and after, Balance, Feral and Restoration beat by beat, your forms and your gear,
2026-10-13 · A note on every saved build
@kirlian66 asked for a note next to a saved build. Save this build now has a second line under the name: what the build is for, who gave it to you, what to swap at 60, anything up to 140 characters. The note shows on the build's chip (the pencil), when you loa
@kirlian66 asked for a note next to a saved build. Save this build now has a second line under the name: what the build is for, who gave it to you, what to swap at 60, anything up to 140 characters. The note shows on the build's chip (the pencil), when you loa
2026-10-10 · Back to Class: what changed for Warriors, with the video
You know Classic. The Warrior guide at talentsforever.com/warrior/changes is only what is different now, told the way the video tells it: what is new, the trees before and after the 1 Oct rework, Arms, Fury and Protection beat by beat, your shouts rank by rank
You know Classic. The Warrior guide at talentsforever.com/warrior/changes is only what is different now, told the way the video tells it: what is new, the trees before and after the 1 Oct rework, Arms, Fury and Protection beat by beat, your shouts rank by rank
2026-10-08 · Beta build 70291: Impale needs Deep Wounds, Penance hits softer
Blizzard's twelfth beta build landed on 8 Oct, and the site now reads its files. On the trees: Impale needs 3 points in Deep Wounds first, and Predatory Instincts is called Natural Instinct, same spot, and now also adds 12 or 25% of your Intellect to your spel
Blizzard's twelfth beta build landed on 8 Oct, and the site now reads its files. On the trees: Impale needs 3 points in Deep Wounds first, and Predatory Instincts is called Natural Instinct, same spot, and now also adds 12 or 25% of your Intellect to your spel
2026-10-06 · The about page names who builds on the data export
The data behind the calculator has been free to take since the start, one JSON file per class under CC BY 4.0. Someone has. Class Pilot Forever by Envy4K is a leveling guide addon that reads the trees from here and sends shared builds back to the calculator, a
The data behind the calculator has been free to take since the start, one JSON file per class under CC BY 4.0. Someone has. Class Pilot Forever by Envy4K is a leveling guide addon that reads the trees from here and sends shared builds back to the calculator, a
2026-10-06 · Blizzard's class videos, checked
Blizzard finished its class videos: Part 2 (Hunter, Mage, Paladin) and Part 3 (Druid, Warlock, Priest). Every claim was checked against the site and the beta's files, and the numbers held up. A few things the site never said outright are in now. Druids keep th
Blizzard finished its class videos: Part 2 (Hunter, Mage, Paladin) and Part 3 (Druid, Warlock, Priest). Every claim was checked against the site and the beta's files, and the numbers held up. A few things the site never said outright are in now. Druids keep th
2026-10-06 · Back to Class: what changed for Priests, with the video
You know Classic. The Priest guide at talentsforever.com/priest/changes is only what is different now, told the way the video tells it: your buffs and your heals and the rest of what is new, the trees before and after, Discipline, Holy and Shadow, your heals a
You know Classic. The Priest guide at talentsforever.com/priest/changes is only what is different now, told the way the video tells it: your buffs and your heals and the rest of what is new, the trees before and after, Discipline, Holy and Shadow, your heals a
2026-10-03 · Checked again, line by line, against build 70170
Every page here was read again against the beta's own files (build 70170, with the 1 to 2 Oct Warrior hotfixes), the in-game recordings and Wowhead, and what no longer held is fixed. The headlines: Combustion lasts 3 crits on the Mage guide, the same as Classi
Every page here was read again against the beta's own files (build 70170, with the 1 to 2 Oct Warrior hotfixes), the in-game recordings and Wowhead, and what no longer held is fixed. The headlines: Combustion lasts 3 crits on the Mage guide, the same as Classi
2026-10-03 · Back to Class: what changed for Shamans, with the video
You know Classic. The Shaman guide at talentsforever.com/shaman/changes is only what is different now, told the way the video tells it: the totem bar and the rest of what is new, the trees before and after, Elemental, Enhancement and Restoration, your damage a
You know Classic. The Shaman guide at talentsforever.com/shaman/changes is only what is different now, told the way the video tells it: the totem bar and the rest of what is new, the trees before and after, Elemental, Enhancement and Restoration, your damage a
Data from talentsforever.com (CC BY 4.0), read from the WoW Forever beta client, build 1.60.1.70425. Updated 2026-10-24. World of Warcraft is a trademark of Blizzard Entertainment; this is a fan site.