Hunter: Classic vs Forever
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Beast Mastery
| Talent | Classic 1.12 | WoW Forever |
|---|---|---|
5 ranks | While Aspect of the Hawk is active, all normal ranged attacks have a 1% chance of increasing ranged attack speed by 30% for 12 sec. | While Aspect of the Hawk is active, Auto Shot has a 10% chance of increasing ranged attack speed by 30% for 12 sec. While Aspect of the Beast is active, all melee auto attacks have a 10% chance of increasing melee attack speed by 30% for 12 sec. |
5 ranks | Increases the Health of your pets by 3%. | Increases the Health and Armor of your pets by 15%. |
2 ranks | did not exist | Increases all damage you and your pet deal by 2% while your pet is active. |
3 ranks ranks 5 → 3 | Increases the Dodge bonus of your Aspect of the Monkey by 1%. | Increases the Dodge bonus of your Aspect of the Monkey by 6%. Additionally, your pet gains 50% of the effect of your Aspect of the Monkey ability. |
2 ranks moved from row 3, col 1 | Increases the speed bonus of your Aspect of the Cheetah and Aspect of the Pack by 3%. | Increases the speed bonus of your Aspect of the Cheetah and Aspect of the Pack by 6%. |
2 ranks | Revive Pet's casting time is reduced by 3 sec, mana cost is reduced by 20%, and increases the health your pet returns with by an additional 15%. | Revive Pet's casting time is reduced by 6 sec, mana cost is reduced by 40%, and increases the health your pet returns with by an additional 30%. |
1 rank | Increases the outdoor movement speed of your pets by 30%. | Increases the movement speed of your pets by 30%. |
5 ranks | Increases the damage done by your pets by 4%. | Increases the damage done by your pets and hawks by 15%. |
2 ranks moved from row 4, col 2 | Gives the Mend Pet spell a 15% chance of cleansing 1 Curse, Disease, Magic or Poison effect from the pet each tick. | Gives your Mend Pet spell a 50% chance of cleansing 1 Curse, Disease, Magic, or Poison effect from your pet each time it heals and reduces the Mana cost by 20%. |
5 ranks | Increases the critical strike chance of your pets by 3%. | Increases the critical strike chance of your pets and hawks by 10%. |
1 rank | did not exist | Command a hawk to dive-bomb your targeted enemy, dealing 32 plus 5% of your Ranged Attack Power Physical damage and continuing its assault for 18 sec. Only 2 hawks can be active at once. Summon Hawk shares its cooldown with Arcane Shot. |
2 ranks | While your pet is active, you and your pet will regenerate 1% of total health every 10 sec. | While your pet is active, you and your pet will regenerate 1% of total health every 5 sec. |
1 rank | Command your pet to intimidate the target on the next successful melee attack, causing a high amount of threat and stunning the target for 3 sec. | Command your pet to Stun the target for 3 sec on its next successful attack, which also gains 100% increased critical strike chance. Generates high threat. |
2 ranks | Increases the Focus regeneration of your pets by 10%. | Increases the Focus regeneration of your pets by 20% and allows 50% of your Mana regeneration to continue while casting. |
5 ranks | Gives your pet a 20% chance to gain a 30% attack speed increase for 8 sec after dealing a critical strike. | Gives your pet a 100% chance to gain a 30% attack speed increase for 8 sec after dealing a critical strike. |
1 rank | Send your pet into a rage causing 50% additional damage for 18 sec. While enraged, the beast does not feel pity or remorse or fear and it cannot be stopped unless killed. | Send your pet into a rage causing 50% additional damage for 18 sec. While enraged, the beast does not feel pity or remorse or fear and it cannot be stopped unless killed. |
| Improved Eyes of the Beast REMOVED 2 ranks, was row 2 | Increases the duration of your Eyes of the Beast by 30 sec. | gone in Forever |
| Thick Hide REMOVED 3 ranks, was row 2 | Increases the Armor rating of your pets by 10%. | gone in Forever |
Marksmanship
| Talent | Classic 1.12 | WoW Forever |
|---|---|---|
3 ranks moved from row 3, col 4 | Increases the range of your ranged weapons by 2 yards. | Increases the range of your ranged weapons by 6 yards. |
5 ranks | Gives your Concussive Shot a 4% chance to stun the target for 3 sec. | Gives your Concussive Shot a 20% chance to stun the target for 3 sec. |
5 ranks moved from row 2, col 3 | Increases your critical strike chance with ranged weapons by 1%. | Increases your critical strike chance with all attacks by 5%. |
3 ranks moved from row 4, col 2 ranks 5 → 3 | Increases the damage done by your Serpent Sting by 2%. | Increases the damage of your Serpent Sting ability by 20%, reduces the cooldown of your Viper Sting ability by 6 sec, and increases the duration of your Scorpid Sting ability by 45 sec. |
5 ranks moved from row 1, col 3 | Reduces the Mana cost of your Shots and Stings by 2%. | Reduces the Mana cost of your Shots, Stings, and melee abilities by 15%. |
5 ranks | did not exist | Increases your Attack Power by 100% of your Intellect. |
2 ranks | did not exist | Reduces the cooldown on your Rapid Fire ability by 2 min. In addition, when you kill a non-trivial enemy or it dies while afflicted by your Serpent Sting, you gain Rapid Killing, increasing the damage of your next Shot ability within 20 sec by 20%. |
5 ranks | Reduces the cooldown of your Arcane Shot by 0.2 sec. | Reduces the cooldown of your Arcane Shot by 1.5 sec. Does not affect the cooldown of abilities which share a cooldown with Arcane Shot. |
1 rank | did not exist | You deal 20% increased damage with all attacks while you do not have an active pet. |
1 rank moved from row 7, col 2 | Increases the attack power of party members within 45 yards by 50. Lasts 30 min. | Increases the Ranged Attack Power of party or raid members within 45 yds by 30. |
5 ranks | Increases your ranged weapon critical strike damage bonus by 6%. | Increases the critical strike damage bonus on all ranged abilities by 30%. |
2 ranks | did not exist | Afflicting a target with Serpent Sting allows 50% of your Mana Regeneration to continue while casting for 15 sec, increased to 100% when Rapid Killing is consumed. |
3 ranks moved from row 5, col 2 | Increases the damage done by your Multi-Shot and Volley spells by 5%. | Increases the damage done by your Multi-Shot, Aimed Shot, and Volley abilities by 10%. |
1 rank moved from row 5, col 1 | A short-range shot that deals 50% weapon damage and disorients the target for 4 sec. Any damage caused will remove the effect. Turns off your attack when used. | A short-range shot that deals 50% weapon damage and disorients the target for 4 sec. Any damage caused will remove the effect. Turns off your attack when used. |
5 ranks | Increases the damage you deal with ranged weapons by 1%. | Increases the damage you deal with ranged weapons by 5%. |
1 rank | did not exist | A long-range shot that deals ranged damage plus 160 and increases the range of your next 3 Shots by 10 yards for 10 sec. |
| Improved Hunter's Mark REMOVED 5 ranks, was row 2 | Increases the Ranged Attack Power bonus of your Hunter's Mark spell by 3%. | gone in Forever |
| Aimed Shot REMOVED 1 ranks, was row 3 | An aimed shot that increases ranged damage by 70. | gone in Forever |
| Improved Scorpid Sting REMOVED 3 ranks, was row 5 | Reduces the Stamina of targets affected by your Scorpid Sting by 10% of the amount of Strength reduced. | gone in Forever |
Survival
| Talent | Classic 1.12 | WoW Forever |
|---|---|---|
5 ranks | did not exist | While tracking Beasts, Demons, Dragonkin, Elementals, Giants, Humanoids, or Undead, all damage you deal to the tracked creature type is increased by 5%. |
5 ranks | Increases your Parry chance by 1%. | Increases your Parry chance by 5%. |
5 ranks | Gives your Immolation Trap, Frost Trap, and Explosive Trap a 5% chance to entrap the target, preventing them from moving for 5 sec. | When your traps are triggered, all affected targets are Entrapped, preventing them from moving for 5 sec. |
2 ranks | Increases the critical strike chance of Raptor Strike and Mongoose Bite by 10%. | Increases the critical strike chance of all your melee abilities by 4%. |
5 ranks moved from row 3, col 2 | Increases total health by 2%. | Increases your total Health by 10%. |
3 ranks moved from row 2, col 3 ranks 5 → 3 | Gives your Wing Clip ability a 4% chance to immobilize the target for 5 sec. | Gives your Wing Clip ability a 20% chance to immobilize the target for 5 sec. |
2 ranks | Increases the duration of Freezing and Frost trap effects by 15% and the damage of Immolation and Explosive trap effects by 15%. | Increases the duration of Freezing and Frost trap effects by 30% and the damage of Immolation and Explosive trap effects by 30%. |
3 ranks moved from row 4, col 2 | Increases hit chance by 1% and increases the chance movement impairing effects will be resisted by an additional 5%. | Increases your hit chance by 3% and reduces the duration of movement impairing effects on you by 30%. |
1 rank | When activated, increases your Dodge and Parry chance by 25% for 10 sec. | When activated, increases your Dodge and Parry chance by 25% for 10 sec. |
2 ranks | did not exist | Increases your chance to hit with your Trap and Feign Death abilities by 10%. |
5 ranks | did not exist | Increases your melee ability critical strike damage by 30% and your Off Hand weapon damage by 50%. |
1 rank moved from row 5, col 3 | A strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 40 damage and immobilizes the target for 5 sec. Counterattack cannot be blocked, dodged, or parried. | A strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 50% weapon damage plus 13 and immobilizes the target for 5 sec. Counterattack cannot be blocked, dodged, or parried. |
2 ranks | did not exist | Reduces the Mana cost of your Trap and melee abilities by 60%, and grants your melee and ranged ability Critical Strikes a 100% chance to allow 50% of your Mana Regeneration to continue while casting for 30 sec. |
2 ranks | did not exist | Grants your melee and ranged attacks against enemies afflicted by Hunter's Mark a 10% chance to allow an activation of Mongoose Bite. Lasts 10 sec. |
2 ranks | did not exist | Reduces the cooldown of your Trap and Deterrence abilities by 40%. |
1 rank | did not exist | A powerful kick that deals 100% melee weapon damage and increases movement speed by 30% for 3 sec. |
5 ranks | Increases your Agility by 3%. | Increases your Agility by 10%. |
1 rank | did not exist | Your Mongoose Bite also causes the target to Bleed for damage equal to 40% of the damage done by Mongoose Bite over 21 sec |
| Monster Slaying REMOVED 3 ranks, was row 1 | Increases all damage caused against Beasts, Giants and Dragonkin targets by 1% and increases critical damage caused against Beasts, Giants and Dragonkin targets by an additional 1%. | gone in Forever |
| Humanoid Slaying REMOVED 3 ranks, was row 1 | Increases all damage caused against Humanoid targets by 1% and increases critical damage caused against Humanoid targets by an additional 1%. | gone in Forever |
| Trap Mastery REMOVED 2 ranks, was row 4 | Decreases the chance enemies will resist trap effects by 5%. | gone in Forever |
| Improved Feign Death REMOVED 2 ranks, was row 4 | Reduces the chance your Feign Death ability will be resisted by 2%. | gone in Forever |
| Killer Instinct REMOVED 3 ranks, was row 5 | Increases your critical strike chance with all attacks by 1%. | gone in Forever |
| Wyvern Sting REMOVED 1 ranks, was row 7 | A stinging shot that puts the target to sleep for 12 sec. Any damage will cancel the effect. When the target wakes up, the Sting causes 300 Nature damage over 6 sec. Only usable out of combat. Only one Sting per Hunter can be active on the target at a time. | gone in Forever |
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Classic text is the 1.12 tooltip; status flags come from the data export. Data from talentsforever.com (CC BY 4.0), read from the WoW Forever beta client, build 1.60.1.70425. Updated 2026-10-24. World of Warcraft is a trademark of Blizzard Entertainment; this is a fan site.